Throughout this very rich and insightful conversation Penelope mentions that she isn't 'at all techy' so if the idea of AI bores you then this conversation is for you.

Penelope has a way of making it so simple to understand, so useful and actually really interesting.

Her ex employer from years before told her that with no amount of training she would grasp excel and so she avoided it from then on. This nearly made her avoid a coding class because she had this internal belief that she wasn't clever enough to 'get it' but she turned up anyway and it changed everything.

Penelope has had a very interesting life wearing many different hats from the various different job rolls for various types of employers over the years. And she thinks that her inability to stay in a roll for more than 2 years at a time is possibly due to her having autism, ADHD, and dyspraxia but also the very reason as to why she can easily visualise the structure behind AI, seeing patterns, breaking things down and reassembling them into a useable system - a very interesting and useful skill to have.

We talk about everything from reading Carrie Green's book She Means Business to her kids at bedtime when they were little and now how her eldest is away at uni still listening to it when she goes to bed.

How she uses AI to decode her dreams and helps her daughter translate her uni lectures that are delivered in french to help her get the most from them whilst she picks up the language, to being looked down upon when she told a branding professional that if she used pink she wouldn't be taken seriously... We all know that's not true!

If AI is something that worries you, bores you, or even interests you, you'll love Penelope's story.